Episode 41

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16th Jul 2025

Holding Hope in the Climate Emergency with Harriet Shugarman

With our anti-science, anti-intelligence, chaos and cruelty driven administration, it’s hard not to feel completely hopeless about the climate emergency. 

Today we are #LIVEintheHIVE with Harriet Shugarman, a US based university professor, multi-award-winning author, writer, economist and climate policy advisor with many years of experience working on our climate emergency. www.ClimateMama.com

We are still reeling from the catastrophic floods in Texas, with a death toll presently at 111 and another 172 people found missing.  The climate crisis played a significant role in this flooding, and thanks to this chaotic and incompetent administration, staffing shortages at the National Weather Service contributed to the severity of the flooding. Climate disaster meets climate denial.

According to research, 77% of the global population want their government to do whatever it takes to limit the effects of climate change.

Where are we in our efforts to meet the climate crisis? How can we prepare for the growing climate instability? And most importantly, how do we hold onto hope?

As Climate Mama Harriet Shugarman says, “Tell the truth, actions speak louder than words, and don't be afraid."

In this episode we touch on…

  • In these challenging times, Harriet recommits to leading with empathy.
  • Only 90 days in, there are devastating cuts to U.S. climate research by the Trump administration. How are we meeting these setbacks?
  • Climate.gov has been completely erased from the internet. However scientists saved this information and you can find it here: https://screening-tools.com/abou
  • This 30th United Nations Climate Change Conference of the Parties (COP30), which will be held in Belém, Brazil, from November 10-21, 2025, is an important year marker during which countries must share and report on their climate contributions. We now have climate deniers in what the USA reports, so hopefully they will not be at the global table.
  • How can we promote public awareness and engagement on climate change issues? Why are we so ineffective? The continued power of STORYTELLING. www.DearTomorrow.org | www.OurKidsClimate.org 
  • Climate grief and mental health. www.Ecopsychopedia.org
  • What drives the global community to want their governments to take climate action? How can we be “good ancestors”?
  • Her award-winning book, "How to Talk to Your Kids About Climate, Turning Angst into Action."
  • More resources: www.InsideClimateNews.org | www.climatecommunication.yale.edu

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Full bio:

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@ClimateMama

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About the Podcast

The Edge of Everyday with Sandra Bargman
Actor, Inter-spiritual minister and Storytelling Teacher, Sandra Bargman leans into the understanding that life isn't black or white, but rather it's where these two intersect where we find the most creativity, chaos and ultimately, understanding.
Based on her hit one-woman show of the same name, The Edge of Everyday with Sandra Bargman explores the transformative moments where everyday life meets uncertainty, growth, and deeper meaning. Through intimate, thought-provoking conversations, the show examines identity, paradox, spirituality, and social change, inviting listeners to reflect on the edges between fear and courage, comfort and expansion. It’s a space for authentic storytelling and soulful inquiry into what it means to live fully and consciously in a complex world. Real talk with real people that spark provocative invitations to leap out of what’s safe.

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Sandra Bargman

Actor, Inter-spiritual minister and Storytelling Teacher, Sandra Bargman leans into the understanding that life isn't black or white, but rather it's where these two intersect where we find the most creativity, chaos and ultimately, understanding.
Based on her hit one-woman show of the same name, The Edge of Everyday with Sandra Bargman explores the transformative moments where everyday life meets uncertainty, growth, and deeper meaning. Through intimate, thought-provoking conversations, the show examines identity, paradox, spirituality, and social change, inviting listeners to reflect on the edges between fear and courage, comfort and expansion. It’s a space for authentic storytelling and soulful inquiry into what it means to live fully and consciously in a complex world. Real talk with real people that spark provocative invitations to leap out of what’s safe.